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returntothepit >> discuss >> What the f is up with Star Trek by the_reverend on Apr 27,2006 2:56pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 27,2006 2:56pm
I have the next generation on while I'm working. I've got a few questions:
1) why does everyone speak english except for the klingons who have some retarded language?
2) how can klingons and humans make babies? we can't even make babies with other species on our planet.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Apr 27,2006 2:58pm
i guess there's a "don't ask questions" policy around anything the klingons do



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Apr 27,2006 2:58pm
the_reverend said:
we can't even make babies with other species on our planet.


Yes we can.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 27,2006 3:13pm
yeah man. rich is a product of a cross between marsupial, bat and wooly mammoth.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 27,2006 3:15pm
rich is a combination of the fruit of my loins and the fruit of matt rowe's loins.



toggletoggle post by dreadedsilence at Apr 27,2006 3:32pm
um...manbearpig, duh



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 27,2006 3:38pm
are you serial?



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Apr 27,2006 4:06pm
yeah. Rice Krispies, in fact.



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toggletoggle post by Lycanthroat at Apr 27,2006 5:00pm
Rich Horror is a mixture of Booberry and Captain Crunch.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Apr 27,2006 5:01pm
Truth.



toggletoggle post by Geraldo_Rivera at Apr 27,2006 5:15pm
RichHorror was raped by brids when she was a young little lassie:
Truth.





toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Apr 27,2006 5:15pm
I hate breathing.



toggletoggle post by Geraldo_Rivera at Apr 27,2006 5:16pm
Cowmaximus: I hate life.
MattSPONCH: i hate life as well.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Apr 28,2006 2:00pm
the_reverend said:
I have the next generation on while I'm working. I've got a few questions:
1) why does everyone speak english except for the klingons who have some retarded language?


The storyline reason is that everyone has a universal translator in their com badges which allows every known language at the time to be translated into English (the only problem with this is that we consequently shouldn't hear anything in Klingon, right?).

But the real answer to your question is because sub-titles are too intrusive for a one hour TV show, and having them for every language would be annoying (and a waste of time and effort). Keeping that in mind, they still include a few words of Klingon in order to not totally exclude the linguistic aspects of people living among other cultures.


the_reverend said:
2) how can klingons and humans make babies? we can't even make babies with other species on our planet.


There's actually a later TNG episode that explains that all humans, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, etc. evolved from the same DNA building blocks planted five billion years ago on several planets by the original humanoid race (in order to perpetuate themselves after they died off). The whole series makes a lot more sense when you see it, because until then I always wondered why the hell all these supposedly "different" races look alike.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Apr 28,2006 2:05pm
ShadowSD said:
The storyline reason is that everyone has a universal translator in their com badges which allows every known language at the time to be translated into English (the only problem with this is that we consequently shouldn't hear anything in Klingon, right?)..


that reminds me, i was in new bedford today, and we need those in real ife, seriously.




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toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 28,2006 3:11pm
hahaha the girls hat says "So-Hi".



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 28,2006 3:12pm
dreadkill said:


Mt. Doom puffs



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Apr 28,2006 5:25pm
i really wish i could find a picture of al gore leaned way back in that computer chair



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Apr 28,2006 5:41pm
I guess I'm the only one who thought that last South Park was kinda weak...



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Apr 28,2006 6:01pm
strangely enough it was more like family guy humor



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Apr 28,2006 6:05pm
Really, how so? I didn't notice lots of tangential cutaways in the episode. Also, Family Guy is funny.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Apr 28,2006 6:07pm
more random...like manbearpig, and al gore acting ridiculous, and cartman shitting fake treasure

then again, that's pretty standard south park stuff

i guess it's like family guy humor when there isn't cutaways



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Apr 28,2006 6:16pm
rich horror is a beluga whale in disguise



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Apr 28,2006 6:18pm
how does he hide the horn on his forehead?



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Apr 28,2006 7:02pm
I mean, I guess Cartman swallowing that fake treasure was classic South Park in the way that he got what was coming to him, but aside from that, it was an at best thirty second Al Gore joke that was stretched out for twenty minutes. I usually love political satire, but this got really boring, I'd have been better off watching SNL reruns of Darrel Hammond impersonating Gore. South Park is always so great at beating the fuck out of figures that people put on pedestals, because deep down you know that at least some people who nievely revere that figure will rightfully have their insulated bubble burst by the episode; the problem here is that nobody puts Gore on a pedestal, even the people who voted for him, so the jokes fall flat...

Manbearpig was also not as funny as other South Park oddities (or anything by Family Guy, Family Guy would have had the sense to limit the half hour joke to five seconds, and it would have been funny). Crazy hybrid South Park characters like Scuzzlebutt, The Underpants Gnomes, Mr. Hankey, Towelie, and the Taco that Shits Ice Cream were all funny because they played with the innocence/nostalgia factor of the boys' imagination coming into contact with reality. Even the show's perception of God as an ugly hybrid beast was hilarious, because it showed the futility in the arrogance of people who assume they could know the form of deity. Manbearpig would be funnier if it somehow exposed the arrogance of all those rabid Al Gore fans... wait there aren't any.




toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Apr 28,2006 9:00pm edited Apr 28,2006 9:01pm
the_reverend said:
I have the next generation on while I'm working. I've got a few questions:
1) why does everyone speak english except for the klingons who have some retarded language?
2) how can klingons and humans make babies? we can't even make babies with other species on our planet.


I'm guessing these questions were directed at me, though I was happy to see ShadowSD answer them seriously.

1. The universal translators make everyone speak English, or at least everyone whose species has been programmed in. There are actually several races throughout the shows who you can't understand at first, not just the klingons. The reason they let you hear the klingon language is because they are so popular and they really delved into their culture a lot. Yes, the universal translator is a deux ex machina and they could have done without it. One of the only good things about the oft-maligned, shitty Enterprise prequel series is that they played around with the translator when it was new, they actually had a languages expert on the crew to program it.

2. Their biologies are very similar, same thing with Humans/Vulcans, Human/Romulans and some other races that have kids. Most of the differences between humans and klingons are cosmetic or caused by the difference in environments on their home planets. What is probably a greater question (and criticism) is why so many damn races were just humans with 'foreheads of the week'.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Apr 28,2006 11:39pm
The Klingons, Ferengi, Vulcans, Romulans, and Cardassians all laugh at our boring foreheads behind our back.



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Apr 29,2006 11:50am
Sacreligion said:
how does he hide the horn on his forehead?


thats a narwhal
this is a beluga



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