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:	post by the_reverend at 2011-03-25 15:35:54

arilliusbm said	[orig][quote]
Indeed, not everything is as pretty as one would imagine. But from a historical perspective, there is no question that WESTERN civilization experienced a breakthrough of thought during the Renaissance.

so... let me get this straight...
7,000 years ago (when God created man) til 10,000BC = nothing
10,000BC = some pyramids were built but we learned nothing
10,001BC to 30AD = nothing
31AD = built a city, killed a jew
32AD-1200 = nothing
1201-1349 = everything good was created even tanks
1350-2011 = steady diet of nothing

arilliusbm said

In school, kids are taught history from a Western Perspective, rather than a neutral or complete perspective. We barely teach our kids about Chinese history, Indian History, or anything that is outside of Western Civ. You usually have to take electives in college to learn about that stuff.
The kids are brainwashed from a young age. We are taught that the "Dark Ages" were "dark" - but if you really sit and think about it, they tell us that because Christianity had not completely spread through Europe yet.
The peaks of Civilization seem to come in waves, and to me at least, religion hinders progress during each wave. It seems we are nearing a steep decline in humanity's progress, even though technology has increased 10000000x in the past 20 years.
Mental progression is hindered by the surroundings and environment.. those who control the surroundings and environment control the masses.
There are select few individuals on this planet that are above any law or president and money means nothing to them.

I think that you are incorrect. Like I said, the huddled masses are always huddle masses living in filth. The fact that you can remember 10 people out of 1/2 billion that live/died in the Renaissance means nothing. The fact that there were 10 exceptional people, there were 499,999,990 people that knew nothing, wallowed in shit, and didn't know what a chinese was.

Now-a-days with 6+ Billion people, the number of people not only as smart but way smarter than the 10 Renaissance men that you remember is in the millions. The average person knows a hell of a lot more than the average person from the 1300's.

If you really think that we are in metal stagnation, run some things by your kids and you will see them achieving math 5 years younger than you did. When I was in kindergarden, we were learning not to shit our pants and cry or how to make palm-print turkeys. Now, they learn simple multiplication.

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