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:	post by ShadowSD at 2009-11-24 19:40:33

WarriorOfMetal said	[orig][quote]
Shadow, I have to disagree with you about loudness. A performance of Mahler's 2nd Symphony totally changed my perspective on this. A large full orchestra can (unamplified) get just as loud as most metal bands with big amps and a decent PA, not to mention having an overall more powerful sound than most metal bands.

Well, I don't intend to downplay classical, it's certainly quite dynamic.

I just think that metal has something special that allows it to reach higher levels of intensity than anything else. Part of it is the existence of a small tight band; a full orchestra can never be as truly tight as a few people in my opinion. Part of it is the way the drumkit can tie everything together, playing full beats and tempos in a way that classical did not achieve (although there are certainly plenty of fast/ripping classical pieces, none of of those are held together the same way by percussive instruments and thus do not have the same ceiling of speed, heaviness, and intensity). Part of it is because the guitar can also be percussive with the palm mute and lack thereof, and the two can bounce off of each other with complex rhythms you don't really see as much in classical. Part of it is the diversity of guitar tones and the nature of distortion; extending the dynamic potential of the instrument extends the dynamic potential of the band. Part of it is that metal bands write their own music, and that contributes to tightness as well.

For me personally, I can hear Misanthrope from Death or Halloween by Helloween or Dyers Eve/Battery/Whiplash by Metallica - just to scoop up some random and diverse examples - and there's an energy, speed, and heaviness level reached beyond I think what the classical masters were able to compose with what they had available; they just didn't have the technology and the medium to work with. I say that with all due respect for classical music, for which I have plenty. Nothing they do gives me an adrenaline rush or makes me want to bang my head like some kick ass metal.

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