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:	post by ouchdrummer at 2008-07-17 12:01:50

water doesnt work anymore, it comes up dilluted and they make you take it again the next day. If you do that twice, you fail.

Goldenseal doesnt work anymore, EVERY lab piss test also tests for this.

Someone else's piss works... if you can keep it above 80degrees which is hard even in you pants, cause most of the cups you piss into have a thermometor strip on the side that they check RIGHT after you piss. Although they do sell a thing called the urinator, looks like a dick and stores fake piss (you can buy powdered refills) and keeps it warm, although its about 100$ so for your purposes it prolly wont work.

Your only really safe way to do it is to buy one of the proven drinks, i can swear by one that got me out of state paid vacations a couple times, it's called vale, you can by it at Buried Treasures on Haviland st. down by Berkely College. It's 50$ you drink it between 30min and 5 hours before your test, your good. If you dont have the money BORROW IT FROM SOMEONE. cause it's the only legitimate way to be sure.

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