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:	post by infect sli sli sli at 2007-12-19 03:43:57

CNV said:

I have not read the entire blog of Sherry "feminazi" Wolf... But I think I get the just of it... She is saying that certain people are going to benefit at the expense of others if Ron Paul becomes president.

Newsflash! That is how politics works... I do not care who the candidate is- People will benefit at the expense of others....

This is a fact, politics is a power struggle between self interested parties. the winners consolidate their power and fuck everyone else over 6 ways past tuesday. The libertarian/conservative view of this is that it is natural, inevitable, and therefore "right" somehow. This I cannot agree with.
Even in the current state of affairs with all the meddlesome "re-distribution of wealth" (not sure who its being re-distributed to) and other commie mischief that the right loves to lament, one can still clearly see what happens when "individuals" who are actually huge conglomerated corporate interests, are allowed too much "freedom". Without any check on their power (or more importantly their ability to consolidate MORE power) these entities become the oppressive force in society, and everyone else (the working class, the environment, the third world, etc. etc.) gets fucked.
Now as for your second very true assertion,

Every fuckin government benefits at the expense of others... Every single one throughout the history of time...

well yeah, absolute power corrupts absolutely,
the problem is that in recent history, corporate interests have become more powerful and therefore able to inflict far more damage on actual individuals than any government ever has. governments of first world industrialized liberal democracies must at least feign the appearance of serving the public interest.
free market capitalism works in theory, because there is no accounting for differences in power and influence among "individuals".
unfortunately it "works" in practice because the people who get fucked by it get fucked so totally, that they completely lack any of the freedom, power, resources, education, voice, influence, etc. that it would take to change their situation.
government has a legitimate purpose within civilization; making sure the big guys don't fuck the little guys too hard.

if you want to go back to REAL libertarianism, i.e. the law of nature,
I am totally there, but that means that all the CEO's and Investors get stripped of their money and their private security guards and have to come out and compete in the true sense of the word... somehow i dont think they would last too long. what passes for "the fittest" in a capitalist society is pretty far perverted from what it means in nature.

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