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:	post by ArrowHead at 2004-09-22 14:22:32

Josh_Martin said:

Papa Gino's fucking sucks. Every single person near my age that I've talked to agrees with me that some time around 1990 they changed something about how they make pizza, because we all loved it when we were kids and it sucks now.

For the record, all the testing that we've done show that our pizza is preferred to all our competitors, but our target market is definately not kids your age, so you might be onto something there.

As far as changing the pizza, in the early 90's some restaurants changed from traditional rotary ovens to deck or conveyor ovens, so the Papa Gino's near you might be using one of those. They don't quite make the pizza as crispy or as thoroughly cooked. However, I think the main difference is the people making the pizza. With the job market being the way it is, and our labor budgets constricted the way they are, it's damned hard to keep a pizza maker working for you long enough for them to get good at it. It's just too much work for too little pay. Unlike some places out there (like most of the greek places, or pizza hut, etc..) we don't use pans, we actually stretch and toss the dough ourselves. It's something that takes a lot of time and practice to get down right.

I am actually on your side here. I used to LOVE papa gino's pizza as a kid, now I won't even waste my time ordering one outside of work, because it's usually nasty and made by some 16 year old retard. But, if you were to come in and have a pizza I made (after 6 years, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year of making pizzas) I assure you it would be the exact pizza you remember from when you were a kid.

Again, this brings us back to the complaints about charges, If I could actually afford to pay a pizza maker the $10 an hour they were worth, maybe I could trust that the pizzas were just as good when I wasn't making them as when I was.

Also, just for the info, In my opinion Crazy Dough has the best pizza around here. If you want better, you gotta go to New York.

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